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I have used various rinseless washes and liked all of them. They offered different things but all did the job, I still prefer ONR as a better all-rounder. As with many things in detailing and the real world, there is a high degree of preference rather than any one product which is vastly superior to another. I cannot recall ever using ONR after trying another brand and feeling disappointed. I am almost tempted to order the new version of ONR for my business but the costs are quite high ordering from Europe and importing into the UK

Absolutely right Ron, I should have credited Yvan with putting two buckets on either side of the car plus I enjoy his approach to detailing. On the other hand, all this efficiency stuff is built on nearly a century of engineers and thinkers such as Deming, Juran, Ohno, Shingo, Taguchi, Toyoda et al Whilst I do love efficiency work and it helps pays my mortgage, it is obviously not for everyone, if someone wants to spend a day cleaning a wheel and they enjoy it then this is time well spent although there is an argument for those for example who love waxing and dislike washing, be efficient with the washing to maximise the time waxing

I would treat the cills as sections but would understand if someone else viewed them as one separate panel. Experimentation is key here. Key questions are, does it require less effort and movement as well as increased speed. The technical name for this is 'one piece flow', there is a lot of good information out there on this topic but my favourite video is about using one piece flow for washing dishes by Dr Bradley Miller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoyT01qpwRc Certainly not a Hollywood production but does a great job at demonstrating the technique and makes some very important points about mental engagement near the end of the video. If I am training I will often use stuffing paper into envelopes, nearly everyone thinks that doing them in batches is quicker and the look of confusion when they cut the batch size to one, is gratifying. The mapping of movement is called a spaghetti diagram and can be a very powerful tool, many people don't like this diagram as they think it is too simple and search for complex/expensive solutions which will do the same thing.

Yes, stronger ONR is just likely to lead to streaks not stronger cleaning, Opticlean is better at cleaning and has more lubrication but is obviously more expensive. I have used Opticlean to pre-treat the paint and then washed with ONR. I only use one wash bucket, if I wanted to be more efficient I would have two buckets, one on each side of the car!

Bensla Really enjoyed your video, nice production. As for efficiency, any process can be made more efficient. Currently down to one working eye so the world is a bit blurred and without seeing the unedited version these are only general comments There is lots of walking around the car, although it does not sound like a lot of time, it all adds up. With pen & paper or any other method, draw an outline of the car and watch the full process and draw lines which match how often you move around the car or go somewhere else. I would put the bottle of Optiseal in your pocket, carrying different things in your hands is not efficient as it increases the chances of something going wrong. Even better, get a toolkit belt. I would adopt a standardised approach to washing each panel, humans seem to be poor at doing this, we will over wash some parts and just give a quick wipe to others. Most good efficiency improvements come from making lots of small improvements, it is the cumulative result which give the best results. I would suggest washing, drying etc each panel before moving onto the next one if you wish to save even more time. This approach seems counter intuitive but it does work. One day I really should make some YouTube videos on detailing efficiency, perhaps there is a market for reaction detailing videos?

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Troy does make an interesting point about other industries not using the Pro only model. Of course some do not need to, the cost and time resources required to access some items makes it an efficient barrier but ultimately the business owner can choose to set the rules for his or her products. I have questioned many things about OPT decisions in the past. Ron and his predecessors have engaged with me but still it all comes down to Dr G can set whatever rules he likes. There may or may not be a lot of profit in opening up a particular market and presumably Dr G weighs up the risks and concludes with a certain strategy which I guess is what he is paid to do. The only thing I fundamentally disagree with Troy about is the use of a green font, not on aesthetics grounds but because it is damned hard to read. On the plus side, I did enjoy your Youtube videos.

It would be an interesting experiment but suspect using glass polish would be very efficient at introducing more swirls. Glass is vastly harder compared to car paint so would be safer sticking with paint polish.

Just to add to Ron's comments, removing a few microns would not be difficult.

I strongly suspect no coating will bond to another companies coating.

I would suggest Power Clean. Given you already own some ONR then another shampoo might be nice to have but it will effectively be doing the same thing. A all purpose cleaner such as Power Clean would be far more useful

M Wash is the traditional shampoo whereas Power Clean is an All Purpose Cleaner

For the least effort and most predictable results, I would stick with Hyper Seal. Other products may or may not play well with the coating but Hyper Seal was designed to work with the OPT coating. Of course you are free to try many other products and if you have money burning a hole in your pocket then start experimenting.

I will echo Ron's view, use a dedicated windscreen wash and use ONR as a booster. No idea if washer fluids will damage wiper blades but suspect even if they do, UV and abrasion will have a far bigger impact. When things get warmer, would suggest getting a glass coating. Clear glass is such a critical safety feature and a good coating can make a big difference.

As with many things in life, it is about finding things which work for you and your circumstances.