theTHiiiNG

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    theTHiiiNG reacted to NDWind in 2019 Indian Roadmaster polished and gloss coated   
    Here in TN, the rain finally stopped and the sun came out long enough for me to bring this project out for a ride today. This RM started as a standard 2019 Burgundy Metallic. Since Indian did not make a Roadmaster Elite this year, I made my own interpretation of one.   Aside from ONR, I had never used any other Optimum products before Oct 2018. Once I understood the Optimum system, I went 'all in', bought a lot of Optimum products and completely polished, coated and sealed this bike with nothing but Optimum products. As an amateur detailer, the synergy of the Optimum system simplified my process so much I actually gave away a lot of other products I had.   Feel free to browse through the album to see the work as well as before and after pics of polishing. All the pictures are commented so you can follow the story. As you browse the gallery, you will notice the parts with swirl marks. Keep in mind I bought this bike new with no miles on it so I'm disappointed this bike came from the factory looking like that. I guess most people don't notice. Now that I've shown my wife what to look for she points stuff out to me! 🤣   I appreciate any feedback you all might have.   https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10215220367201022&type=1&l=3f098a4711   Special thanks to Ron Doyle at Optimum who answered every question I had.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to toddj in Optimum Tire Protection & Coating Review   
    i’ve never used Tire Coatings.  Optimum is one of my favorite brands, so when they announced a coating for Tires I wanted to try it.
    Too cold to do this outside today so I did it in my garage after a quick ONR wash.  My wife’s 2015 Tahoe has about 40k miles on the original tires, we will replace them shortly.  I wanted to try both 1 coat and 2 coat application
     
    Front Tires = 1 coat (satin)
    Rear Tires = 2 coats (glazed donut)
     
    Prep :  Scrubbed with PowerClean 100%, non diluted..  Rinsed with pump sprayer.  Scrubbed with Optimum Power Clean rinsed, repeat Power Clean.  Dry very well.
    Consistency : It’s the same consistency as ONR, very liquidy, not like Opti bond.
    Goes on and turns a blue/purple color.  After about 5 minutes it turns clear.  For the back tires I waited 30 mins and applied a 2nd coat.
    Picture included below  is the results
    I’ll follow up with my thoughts in the comments over time.
     
     

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    theTHiiiNG got a reaction from avimore in Detailing Efficiency Experiments   
    It depends on how dirty they are, but since switching to ceramic pads I usually just use normal car shampoo with a little wheel cleaner added in. Since it foams so much I don't need much product - probably only about 50ml of product to 700ml of water.
    It does make a little bit of a mess on the garage floor, especially if your wheels are really dirty. In the end I was backing the car out of the garage and cleaning the wheels with a hose and the IK Foam sprayer in the traditional way and then pulling it back in and doing my normal ONR wash.
     
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    theTHiiiNG got a reaction from DancingBear in Figuring out Opti-coat Maintenance   
    I agree with using ONR instead of OID. It provides a lot more lubrication and is very quick to do. 
    If the car really isn't dirty and has just been rained on you could fill a pump sprayer with ONR solution and completely cover the car in it then proceed to dry with a proper drying towel. 
    Just curious though, why do you need to dry it after being rained on? 
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    theTHiiiNG got a reaction from DancingBear in Figuring out Opti-coat Maintenance   
    Those streaks that you found are perfectly normal and are just high spots that need a second pass as you said.
    You will have a hard time using too much product with Opti-Seal or Hyper Seal, but there is not really any benefit to adding countless layers of product. There is diminishing returns when using sealants, waxes and coatings. I find that applying one good layer, letting it cure for the required time, then adding a quick second layer is all that is required. Any more and you are probably just wasting product, money and time.
    Using Hyper Seal as your drying aid with each wash is more then enough to keep it topped up for many months before needing a full decontamination wash and reapplication of it.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to Detail Mutant in Opti-Lens Headlight Restoration Longevity   
    @Setec Astronomy
    Thanks for your sharing your experience.  This is very disappointing as a year or less is really no longer than potentially applying a standard paint sealant ( or a lens sealant in the cheap headlight restoration kits).  From what I have researched here and other boards, Opti-lens is specifically formulated to bond to plastic such that it performs better when the factory clear coat has been fully removed.  It there is still factory clear coat on lens (not started to yellow), it is best just to use standard paint coatings (Gloss-coat or Opti-coat pro).  I think one the main contributors to lens failure is road rash (mileage with lots of exposure to small rocks).  One of the clients I applied Opti-lens to commutes 150 km round trip daily on on the 401 Hwy in Ontario.  So we'll see in a year if he experiences the same premature failure that you have experienced.
    I know for my personal vehicle (2011 BMW 328xi wagon) I have installed XPEL PPF on the headlight lens to protect from road debris that can lead to clear coat failure on the lens.  I wonder if I should be combining Opti-lens with application PPF after 1 week cure time.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to Blue Dream in Finally finished 14 hour exterior detail-06 GTO   
    Having used ONR for 10 years I knew Optimum put out solid products.  For what seems like forever I dabbled with Zaino, Menzerna/Jescar, Wolfgang, Meguires etc. with various products being favorites of mine.  Recently got into a conversation with a friend who's a pro detailer about some of the newer products they have.   He swears by the whole Optimum line and I now see why.
     
    The Goat's paint was in great shape from the get go, the car only has 60K miles.  It was rarely driven and was garage kept except for the last 3 years.  In that time she has lived and continues to do so outside 24/7.  So needing to find products that were durable, protected the paint, looked great and were easy to work with became a priority.  So glad I decided to use all Optimum products for my detail, the results are amazing, especially since I had never used any of them before.  Started with an ONR bath then a clay bar pass.  Then in this order here's how I finished it:
    Opti-Coat Primer Polish
    Gloss Coat
    Opti-Seal
    Opti-Bond tire treatment
    Stoners Invisible glass(yeah I get it, not an Optimum product lol)
     
    My trusty Porter Cable 7424 once again came through with flying colors and removed 85% of my swirls/spiderwebbing.  You all can guess the rest, I'll let a few pics do the rest of my talking.  Extremely pleased how it turned out.
     





     
    Given the fact I had to wait a week between the OCPP and GC applications due to 7 days of rain it's even more amazing it all worked out as well as it did.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to No Soap in Detailing Efficiency Experiments   
    +1 for the pre-spray.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to Ron@Optimum in How to fix a scratch on Opticoat Pro+?   
    funny to see Dann listed as "new to the Forum" - while not active on the OPT Forum, Dann is anything but new to Optimum.  A past pro installer, Regional Manager, and current VP of Business Development, Dann is as knowledgeable as anyone could hope for and a welcome voice here!
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to Ron@Optimum in Interior Cleaning: Opti-Clean versus ONR?   
    I use Protectant Plus every time I wash my cars, and frequently in between - no problem with accumulation.  As to Scott, I think he makes good points (if in lecture mode) and we've seen that vehicles need periodic decontamination, only wonder why he specifies Optimum/ONR, there are many rinseless products.  I asked Dr G about rebuttal, but David feels Scott is connected with a competitor and refused to get into a debate.
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    theTHiiiNG got a reaction from A&J in Optimum Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL   
    For the last 2 weeks I've been trialing a test of Optimum's Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL.
    This was very subjective, and hopefully honest test. Spoiler alert - I will start out by saying both products are fantastic and are more than worthy of purchasing.
    I didn't get any great photos as it was too hard to tell the subtle differences between them so you will have to take my word for it. Both products are water based
    and can be diluted if needed/desired.

    Optimum Opti-Bond
    + Leaves a perfectly smooth high gloss finish with no greasy residue
    + Can be diluted further to reduce gloss (I wouldn't go past 1:1 as the consistency gets... weird)
    + Very good value for money (as usual with Optimum)
    + Although not really obvious, can be used on external (and even internal) plastic trim and rubber
    + Still going strong after 2 weeks in a daily driven car in a variety of weather
    + Does not appear blotchy or streaky if applied unevenly
    - The smell is hard to describe, but it's not great
    - Has trouble bonding to older rubber that has started to dry
    - The high gloss look may not be desirable for some

    Applied undiluted to the tyre.



    CarPro PERL
    + Produces a fantastic satin finish on everything it touches
    + Has some kind of darkening effect built in that makes rubber look new
    + Smells amazing!
    + Can be diluted down for use on leather and plastic if needed
    + Very good value for money when purchased in the 1 litre size
    - Produced an unsightly cheap silicone look in direct sunlight when used at full strength (on tyres at least)
    - If you are after a high gloss, wet look, this may not be the best choice
    - Durability on tyres is only average. Starting to noticabley drop off after 2 weeks
    - Due to the darkening effect, it can appear 'patchy' if you don't apply it evenly

    Applied undiluted to the tyre.



    Both products perform great once you get the hang of the quirks each have. For instance - PERL will leave a streaky finish if not wiped down soon after applying and Opti-Bond turns into a really weird consistency if you dilute it too much. I will say that a huge downside to PERL is when applied at full strength to tyres it has a horrible cheap silicone dressing look to it when hit by full sunlight. I took my car to a friends house to actually show it off after washing it on the weekend and this actually made me embarrassed  when he saw it.
    I would happily choose and love using either product, but if I had to go with only one I would give the very slightest advantage to Opti-Bond. I think the name should be changed to Opti-Bond External Trim and Tire Gel as in my experience it actually outperformed PERL on external plastic. I applied it to my mothers car which had very faded external plastic trim, and upon seeing the car weeks later it was still performing well even though it sits outside 24/7.
    If you have any experiences with either of these products please let me know!
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to gspam1 in Interior Cleaning: Opti-Clean versus ONR?   
    Thanks all.  Yes, considering how many anti-Optimum videos he's done, I was surprised he mentioned using ONR again.  Scott has put out some great videos, but I don't get the Optimum hatred.
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    theTHiiiNG got a reaction from A&J in Optimum Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL   
    For the last 2 weeks I've been trialing a test of Optimum's Opti-Bond vs CarPro PERL.
    This was very subjective, and hopefully honest test. Spoiler alert - I will start out by saying both products are fantastic and are more than worthy of purchasing.
    I didn't get any great photos as it was too hard to tell the subtle differences between them so you will have to take my word for it. Both products are water based
    and can be diluted if needed/desired.

    Optimum Opti-Bond
    + Leaves a perfectly smooth high gloss finish with no greasy residue
    + Can be diluted further to reduce gloss (I wouldn't go past 1:1 as the consistency gets... weird)
    + Very good value for money (as usual with Optimum)
    + Although not really obvious, can be used on external (and even internal) plastic trim and rubber
    + Still going strong after 2 weeks in a daily driven car in a variety of weather
    + Does not appear blotchy or streaky if applied unevenly
    - The smell is hard to describe, but it's not great
    - Has trouble bonding to older rubber that has started to dry
    - The high gloss look may not be desirable for some

    Applied undiluted to the tyre.



    CarPro PERL
    + Produces a fantastic satin finish on everything it touches
    + Has some kind of darkening effect built in that makes rubber look new
    + Smells amazing!
    + Can be diluted down for use on leather and plastic if needed
    + Very good value for money when purchased in the 1 litre size
    - Produced an unsightly cheap silicone look in direct sunlight when used at full strength (on tyres at least)
    - If you are after a high gloss, wet look, this may not be the best choice
    - Durability on tyres is only average. Starting to noticabley drop off after 2 weeks
    - Due to the darkening effect, it can appear 'patchy' if you don't apply it evenly

    Applied undiluted to the tyre.



    Both products perform great once you get the hang of the quirks each have. For instance - PERL will leave a streaky finish if not wiped down soon after applying and Opti-Bond turns into a really weird consistency if you dilute it too much. I will say that a huge downside to PERL is when applied at full strength to tyres it has a horrible cheap silicone dressing look to it when hit by full sunlight. I took my car to a friends house to actually show it off after washing it on the weekend and this actually made me embarrassed  when he saw it.
    I would happily choose and love using either product, but if I had to go with only one I would give the very slightest advantage to Opti-Bond. I think the name should be changed to Opti-Bond External Trim and Tire Gel as in my experience it actually outperformed PERL on external plastic. I applied it to my mothers car which had very faded external plastic trim, and upon seeing the car weeks later it was still performing well even though it sits outside 24/7.
    If you have any experiences with either of these products please let me know!
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to A&J in Interior Cleaning: Opti-Clean versus ONR?   
    I˙ll join the party. Interiors are usually a clean place and if you clean your car with ONR every week just soak a towel with it and wipe the interior with that. Like everyone else I use one or the other. If I want a quick fix Ill grab my opti clean sprayer and spray and wipe. Both work fine...dont overthink it.
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to A&J in My ONR Maintenance Procedure   
    People seem to be afraid of onr like its the plague but in reality its the cure.
    Great writeup and a nice looking car you have there
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    theTHiiiNG reacted to A&J in Why I Keep Coming Back to Optimum   
    You know I was thinking the same thing the other day...After trying a lot of other manufacturers rinseless washes and waxes and sealants and QDs and glazes and so on...I found myself admiring my car after a simple ONR wash and opti-seal application. The car was clean and really reflective from the opti-seal that I started saying to myself "Whats the point in buying anything other than OPT?"...and I really cant find an answer!
    Im loving every second I use OPT products. And I believe this is a similar feeling for a lot of us here on this forum