Mr.Outback

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  1. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    The coating tester I've seen on Youtube that seems most thorough is Scott HD, and he usually pronounces a coating "dead" once it stops beading and sheeting (in effect, behaves the same as water on clear-coated paint). Many other Youtubers declare a coating "dead" or dying once it resorts to sheeting. My OptiCoat Pro+ goes from beading to sheeting in the areas where road debris frequently deposit themselves on the coating. My understanding is if that happens, it's time for a maintenance wash (usually ONR, but about every 4 months M-Wash or (rarely) Power-Clean followed by rinse/ONR w/ distilled water/micro-fiber dry/Hyper-Seal.).
  2. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    Rarely mentioned on detailer channels is beading actually concentrate mineral/dirt deposits into little "spots", and it's a major contributor to water spotting (my past cars proved that point after sprinkler shower "rashes") . Still, many coating testers use beading to determine coating durability (no beading? > coating's dead).
  3. Something I've noticed is that aggressive window cleaners like P & S Double Black or Stoner Invisible Glass clean well but leave the glass with a sandpaper feel (towels make audible "scratchy" noises during / after drying). OptiPro Glass Clean and Protect, while not quite as aggressive at cleaning, does leave the glass feeling much smoother and (for my Subaru) doesn't have issues with its Bosch Focus wiper blades (gave up on Subaru wipers as they frequently wear out and chatter).
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    NEW FORMULA HYPER SEAL

    How long does it take for the new Hydro-Seal, after application and leveling, to be fully resistant to water/heavy rain ?
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    Scottys rant

    Scotty Kilmer, a long time auto mechanic and Youtube-er posting many worthwhile tips on auto repair, comes down hard again on "nano protectents". One of his claims is the protectants don't allow car paint to flex in heat, thus shortening its life. My OptiCoat Pro+ 2021 vehicle's been outdoors in 110+ degree weather many days this summer. None of my paint nor its coating has "cracked" - Pro+ is still doing its job. The only place the coating "cracked" was on the edge of the plastic roof trim near the paint surface, where it seemed to be flaking off the plastic. Not sure why but that portion of trim was cleaned and recoated with hyper-seal to see how it will fare during the winter.
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    Optimum car soap with ONR

    Actually, here is a youtube video showing what "foaming" actually does to a dirty car surface. Short version: not much.
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    Optimum car soap with ONR

    Lowes Kobalt brand includes a 600 PSI battery powered pressure washer that also uses a pick up tube. I currently use it for portable spray washing, but not yet on my vehicle. I also wonder whether it's better to gently wipe off applied ONR with a Big Black Sponge, or a plush microfiber (Rag Company 500 series). I currently use micro fiber towels gently dragged over the wetted surfaces.
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    Optimum car soap with ONR

    Just curious, but with all the "Foaming"shown on detailing channels, does spray foaming/dwell/spray rinse actually remove vehicle dirt as effectively as a mechanical wash/rinse with your favorite shampoo/rinse-less wash? Only time I "foam" is, following pre-rinse or ONR-ing, when applying M-wash from my IK foam sprayer, which is agitated with a frequently rinsed dense microfiber mitt before microfiber drying.
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    Scottys rant

    A few years back, Scotty dismissed the first ceramic coatings as hype. Very surprising that, despite vast improvements in the coatings since then, he still feels the same.
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    NEW FORMULA HYPER SEAL

    Is there a point where one can use too __much__ Hyper-Seal? To the point that it could actually flake off of itself?
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    when to toss towels

    Pan the Organizer recently presented a wide variety of microfiber towels. He also mentioned one should discard towels used to level ceramic coatings as the residues in the towels would harden and cause scratching with further use. What Optimum products might make application towels not reusable? Would any pro level ceramic result in unwashable towel residues? Wrt consumer grade coatings, would Hyper-Seal be one to be wary of? Any others?
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    Hello from VT

    Wrt PPF, my local OptiCoat installer put Pro+ on my vehicle's clear coat and PPF (possibly 3M but not identified by installing car dealer). Pro+ seems to be working well on both at 11 months.
  13. A problem with many soft plastics is they outgas plasticizes when heated. In cars that means fogged windows and who knows what else. I wonder if Protectant Plus helps control outgassing? It does keep my leather clean (whole interior was Opti-coated earlier).
  14. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    Scott also measures sheeting, and gloss (latter was before and after his pro samples were applied to test hood panel). Quite a few products reduced gloss - Optimum's raised it.
  15. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    He could create a "road film" concoction and every so often, spray it evenly on the panel, allow it to dry and remain for a given time, then do his wash/etc. procedure before checking for beading. But his testing's pretty thorough as is.
  16. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    Given the small size of HD's test areas, it certainly seems feasible to borrow a set of used syringes from an appropriate installer that have just enough product remaining to apply to the panel. As for what authorized detailer would do that, I've absolutely no idea. It seems any reputable coating maker's gonna have enough product in its dispenser to coat a vehicle (do dispensers come in different sizes? Petite for that Rio N? Gigantic for that coal-burning lifted Hummer?) and have a bit left over. Hopefully Scott HD's tests will provide some useful durability info.
  17. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    Scott HD appears to follow a very specific test pattern (foam/rinse/foam again/wash with "again" foam/rinse. Panels are kept facing sun behind his shop, exposed to elements, and rotated 90 degrees while still facing sun. So far to my knowledge he hasn't tested "driven vehicles" ala Pan the O and Chicago Auto Pros.
  18. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    FYI, one of Youtube's better known Pro Detailers is prepping a pro coating long term test that includes OptiCoat Pro3 (tubes plainly visible as part of product grouping). It'll be one of his longest tests, given how long OptiCoat products generally last.
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    Sponge dripping versus Soaked

    For that matter, I wonder if it would be good to modify how I use ONR: for usual light dust/dirt, Mix with distilled water, liberally spray on the surface of my vehicle, let it dwell for 30 seconds to a minute, then gently wipe off with plush microfiber towels. If dirt is heavier, resort to foam/rinse, then bucket wash with big black sponge and ONR, then microfiber dry.
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    Poor performance by Optimum tire protection?

    The 3 cars I've driven with piano black trim (so many car makers use this !!!) , despite care, end up with faint spider webbing or similar fine scratches in the plastic's surface. Wrt OptiiCoat Protectant Plus, it seems to work well hiding fine scratches in piano black trim .
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    Opti-Coat Pro3

    Wanting the best .vs being able to __get__ the best: a challenge for us customers is deciding how far to go to __get__ a coating, and __when__. In my Pro+'s case, my vehicle had already received a badly applied ceramic coating that our local detailer had to polish off in order to apply Pro+, which in turn required an overnight shop stay to cure. Fortunately, the detailer provided transport to/from his shop and did fine work. For my current vehicle, upgrading to Pro3 would require a 50 mile or more trip to an "exclusive" detailer, another overnight stay to get applied, and having Pro+ polished off. Is it and the trip hassle worth it? Possibly, if the car was brand new and uncoated, so I'll consider that for next vehicle. Meanwhile Pro+ and other Optimum products have worked well: they definitely make the vehicle easy to wash. Perhaps some day there will be a Pro4 that can survive brush car washes (no coating can to date, nor are any warrantied for that abuse) - that would be a further enticement.
  22. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    Not quite sure how Pro+ can (?) bond to Pro3 given both coatings are designed to bond to clearcoat or paint. I remember someone here remarking that to apply Pro3 to Pro+, one had to first polish Pro+ off (a chemical decon would not be enough).
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    Opti-Coat Pro3

    Youtube has a number of detailers testing different products (either real world or on test panels). Save for Chicago Auto Pros who compared Opti-Seal (ignoring, for some reason, Hyper-Seal), none of 'em are testing/have tested Opti Pro products against others. Pan the Organizer did showcase Yvan applying Opti Pro+ to one of his vehicles and showing good results 1 year later, but with no direct comparison to other products.
  24. Mr.Outback

    OC 3

    One curiosity, given Pro3, like Pro+, is a multi-layer coating, is how the coating "wears" over time. Does it change properties as different layers become exposed? Or do the layers actually blend together to create a solid "whole layer" that is uniform in appearance and behavior (Pro+ apparently does this)? FYI Yvan commented about the number of times an expert can "prep" a vehicle to receive a new or different coating: about 4 or 5 times before there's no more clear coat to protect. Per Ron's comments, one detailing outfit now offers a detailing spray that is supposedly fantastic wrt gloss, but lasts 1 - 2 days, max.
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    Poor performance by Optimum tire protection?

    For some reason I've found Nokians more difficult for tire dressings to adhere to. Presently I use power clean or M wash on 'em, then use hyper shield new formula as dressing. idea is to keep brake dust from turning the Nokians brown - so far, so good.