Redgrandam

I personally prefer the look and water behaviour of OCW. Opti seal works well as a drying aid so I use it sometimes for that, but generally use OCW as a drying aid every time and never bother to apply it dry. (Washing is every week or two). from what I have read you can go back and forth between the two with no issues. They work great together.

My car has similar trim. I didn’t find that OptiSeal worked the best, at least visually. I found that optimum car wax looked the best and works great. OCW helps keep it easier to clean at the next wash too as dirt doesn’t stick as much.

I think from the heat, UV and cold you’ll probably lose the colour of the product and likely the smell. But it should still work fine.

I haven’t seen an issue with the wash media (sponge) getting filled with dirt from the wash bucket. I usually use 3-4 gallons though so maybe they helps. They used to say the dirt particles get repelled within the ONR solution. one video I watched recently (I can’t remember who) was showing how the edges of the bucket got a large ring of dirt and grime on it that doesn’t happen with any wash soaps etc. So he attributed that to the ONR repelling. I dunno. For a daily driver I find one bucket and 3 gallons (some of that goes in a pump sprayer) to work great and once I stopped over thinking it I’ve loved the process, and I haven’t seen any issues arise from it.

ONRWW shows carnauba in the composition section. Regular ONR only shows it under the carcinogen warning part of the sds. It seems odd that there would be any in the wash and shine, I wonder if that could be an error? I think if I’m applying say a ceramic spray or something I wouldn’t want carnauba wax left behind. But some polymers certainly don’t seem to be an issue. Someone did some testing I saw on YouTube that tested a panel washed with ONR to see if it affected the sealants. Their tested showed in some cases that it did slightly (but not an amount to worry about) but it also increase durability of one sealant. So I’d say it’s a wash.

Thanks!

I drive a lot on the highway at night commuting home from work. As a result I get a lot of bugs. I find that Opticlean and ONR alone often aren’t enough to completely get rid of the bugs with a weekly wash. I keep the front of the car well coated with sealant and wax (often optimum car wax) as I use it with every wash as a drying aid. Will using Powerclean (3:1) on a weekly basis degrade the plastic trim, headlight plastic, and clear coat over time (years)? I find that it works great to remove all the bugs and residue if I spray the front end down. It removes some sealant too but that’s no problem. The bugs come off with a single wipe of the sponge. I just don’t want to ruin the plastics on the car. To wash the front end I’ve been spraying with Powerclean, then using a pump sprayer give the front a bit of a spray down with ONR, then use sponge with ONR (pretty wet) to wipe the front. Then spray with wax and dry.

He said he is going to test something else on the trunk. Hopefully he uses Opti-seal again for another test.

Does it still smell like coconuts? I’m kind of surprised that things like colour would be added or changed randomly. I know that wouldn’t impact the product effectiveness, but usually a specific recipe is followed (I would assume). Does Dr. G just feel like having fun sometimes? I just got a gallon of wax and it is white (and wonderful).

I find I don’t even usually clean the exterior glass aside from using the sponge and drying after using ONR. 9/10 times the exterior glass looks great after that alone! (Well that and optimum car wax as a drying aid). I’ll have to try going back over with the sponge almost dry if I see any streaks. I have that same towel too but haven’t tried it for glass cleaning specifically yet.

OPC does seem to be safe at 3:1 on glass. At least when I used it the other day it seemed fine, for bugs, not letting it dry of course.

Why not just use ONR? I've heard ONR will kill the suds in a traditional soap. Plus, any PH neutral soap isn’t really aggressive anyways, they do very little cleaning on their own, being as they are ph neutral. An aggressive shampoo would usually be alkaline.

Thanks!!

Not sure if you use a drying aid or not, but using the blue ONR and OCW as a drying aid works amazingly well, and is very easy, so that might get you by until the new ONRWW is out.

Is Opti-clean basically completely safe on all exterior surfaces? Specifically if left to dry is there any chance of etching or damage on paint, plastic or glass? (At the standard dilution). I know ONR is completely safe even if it dries you just hit it with more ONR, just wondering if Opti clean is the same in this regard or if caution should be used like with an APC when spraying it.