Danny Boon Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Hi there @Yvan Lacroix Just watched your video with Pan the Organizer on the Opticoat Pro install. Can you use beadmaker as a sacrificial layer over opticoat Pro or should I be sticking with something else in your lineup or just using nothing? I did see the final step of optiseal but was wondering about maintenence and sacrificial layers and would the same go for the consumer version opticoat gloss? As they are 2 different products would spray on sacrificial layers be the same? Thank you. Best regards Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 They can’t answer things they don’t test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&J Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Im sure youll be fine with Bead maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkripala Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I've been using Beadmaker on my OptiCoat Pro+ coated car and it works perfectly fine. I found that it helps with water beading. I did a test and found that water beads up and falls faster on a Beadmaker section vs the non-Beadmaker section. A number of other detailers have posted videos on YouTube showing similar behavior with other ceramic coatings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&J Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Bead maker seems to really re-juvinates coatings and makes them just better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjbiss Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Any ever compare Beadmaker to Hyperseal? I currently use Hyperseal but do find all the hype around Beadmaker tempting. I have Gloss Coat not Opti Coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have a customer in Florida who stays in close contact and likes to test products. He's tried Beadmaker and says it's good but not as durable as Hyper Seal (and like me, he doesn't get the angst over "bead size" or "tightness"). For what it's worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I want sheeting! What is the best way to get that from Optimum? Opti-Coat Pro Plus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjbiss Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Ron@Optimum said: I have a customer in Florida who stays in close contact and likes to test products. He's tried Beadmaker and says it's good but not as durable as Hyper Seal (and like me, he doesn't get the angst over "bead size" or "tightness"). For what it's worth... Thanks Ron, appreciate the response. This is the response I would have expected. I love Hyper Seal but I love to tinker just as much 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 As has been stated many times, Optimum does not test competitors but we certainly respect those who do and encourage open discussion about the good and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkripala Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 7:28 AM, Ron@Optimum said: I have a customer in Florida who stays in close contact and likes to test products. He's tried Beadmaker and says it's good but not as durable as Hyper Seal (and like me, he doesn't get the angst over "bead size" or "tightness"). For what it's worth... I would be interested in understanding what he meant by durable. If he meant time between applications that would make it easier to compare given the cost differential between the products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Peter in Florida, a long time OPT fan but experimenter with other brands, feels Beadmaker is harder to apply (takes thicker layer and requires buffing to remove haze), has equal shine/hydrophobics, but does not last as long. He washes weekly so have no idea how he tests durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just a nit, but I doubt whether Beadmaker would be a true "sacrificial layer". It may increase slickness, or add gloss etc, but I have trouble accepting that it would form a "layer" that would be thick enough to withstand damage that did not penetrate to the paint. Even Opticoat Pro is not a "layer" - Yvan himself said that it infuses IN to the clear - it does NOT sit on top. Has anyone ever demonstrated a wax/sealant/coating acting as a sacrificial layer? For example - introduce a scratch, and somehow prove that the scratch was only in the product, and not the paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I would say coatings are selected for more easy maintenance, and also some sealants. Opti-Seal is still a great product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olds394 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 5/17/2019 at 9:33 AM, No Soap said: I want sheeting! What is the best way to get that from Optimum? Opti-Coat Pro Plus? I am curious if you got an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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