OPTIMUM TOUCHLESS DECON WASH

[Ron@Optimum]

Optimum Touchless Decon Wash is three products in one. It is a touch free car wash, foaming pre-wash, and heavy duty decontamination wash. It can be used for routine washing as a spray on rinse off touch free wash, foaming pre-wash, or for heavy duty surface decontamination when used for a contact wash with a sponge, towel, or wash mitt. It is a heavily concentrated detergent, pH neutral and safe for all vehicle surfaces and ceramic coated vehicles.

When used for a traditional contact wash, it performs heavy duty decontamination on vehicles and can be used as a prep for polishing or the application of ceramic coatings. It is safe for use on all vehicle surfaces including paint, plastic, glass, ceramic coatings, PPF and vinyl wraps.

[Ron@Optimum]

That is the boilerplate stuff - my take is that decon is a growing area in car care as sealants/coatings improve it's something enthusiasts are becoming aware of.  I've recommended Power Clean as a generic decon product, but this is better - no dilution, no residue, no concern over the strength, doesn't strip wax/sealant, and foaming connects with the popular tool in car care. I have not tried it yet, but will review soon.

[Setec Astronomy]

Sorry Ron, playing Devil's Advocate here.  I'm not really sure I understand this.  If it is a neutral soap, how is this different than perhaps using a stronger solution of Optimum wash, instead of having two different products around?

Arguably a decon prior to polishing might (historically) include a high-alkaline wash, followed by an acid to remove minerals and iron contamination.  The more recent approach to that is to use milder alkaline and/or acid products, or products like MDR or FerreX, and perhaps mechanical agitation like clay or clay towel.

Is this product going to remove remove water spots and embedded iron?  I don't understand where this fits in.  Sort of to your point earlier, why mightn't I just mix some Power Clean in with Optimum Car Wash, instead of buying another product?

[habs33]

OPT posted a video about this on their Facebook

Optimum Touchless Decon Wash

 

[Setec Astronomy]

That just makes things more confusing--why would I buy a new bottle of a different wash, instead of just foaming the car down with Optimum Car Wash, if I'm going to FerreX and clay towel?

[Opti Don]

2 hours ago, Setec Astronomy said:

That just makes things more confusing--why would I buy a new bottle of a different wash, instead of just foaming the car down with Optimum Car Wash, if I'm going to FerreX and clay towel?

Optimum Touchless Decon Wash is a much stronger product than Optimum Car Wash and he managed to accomplish this while keeping the formula PH neutral.

This product has a few different use cases and end users:

1. Touchless wash for frequently washed vehicles: foam on, allow to dwell, rinse, dry vehicle with an air blower.

2. Decontamination Wash for Pro Detailers and end users with Ceramic Coated vehicles. It is strong enough to replace Power Clean as the first decon step before claying, iron removal, and mineral deposit removal. It is also strong enough for periodic ceramic coating decon without extra steps.

3. Industrial applications like farm equipment. We've had people with farm equipment have trouble in the sun using things like Power Clean to decon their coated farm equipment. Touchless Decon solves this problem nicely.

Dr. G gave us something stronger than car wash, safer than Power Clean, and allows us to have the convenience of touchless washes when practical. Give it a try.

[Setec Astronomy]

Thanks, that helps.

[Ron@Optimum]

I appreciate Opti Don contributions - Don is an OPT Regional Manager, runs the in house detailing shop, and is an experienced installer!

[Ron@Optimum]

with the new products introduced and on the way, Don's hands on experience with be invaluable (to me as well).

[KIS76@]

Looks promising.  

[Kiddetailer]

so this product is like ONR....but finally with some degreasing power.  Is it safe to use it every wash if drying aide of hyper seal is used ?

[Opti Don]

9 hours ago, Kiddetailer said:

so this product is like ONR....but finally with some degreasing power.  Is it safe to use it every wash if drying aide of hyper seal is used ?

Yes, that is correct. It is safe to use every wash with or without a drying aide. Hyper Foam with Hyper Seal as a drying aide every wash is a good plan. I love Hyper Seal and the most recent batches shipped out after May have much improved water beading.

[Kiddetailer]

Does it have to be foamed or can this product be sprayed on with a regular pump sprayer if using it as a spray on/rinse off Decon?

[PNW hobbyist]

On 10/4/2024 at 8:56 AM, Opti Don said:

Yes, that is correct. It is safe to use every wash with or without a drying aide. Hyper Foam with Hyper Seal as a drying aide every wash is a good plan. I love Hyper Seal and the most recent batches shipped out after May have much improved water beading.

 To clarify, this says Hyper Foam ("FoamNR"?). How about Decon Wash? Sorry for the long post here, but this product seems potentially game changing, and OPT's website has a tendency to undersell product usefulness. I am not a pro or even an enthusiast, I just like keeping my own daily drivers clean and nerding out on efficiency. Thanks so much, Ron & Don!

(1) When we don't need a full decontamination, can we skip the heavy foaming step, and use Decon Wash at 256:1 w/ BRS without a post-rinse? 

(2) Can we use Decon at 256:1 (or another weak dilution) as a pre-spray before a regular ONR bucket wash with no rinsing pre or post?

ONR doesn't always catch the oily buildup on the lower panels of my uncoated white car during the pdx fall/winter. I have been using an APC presoak (Power Clean 8:1-3:1 or Greenstar 20:1-10:1) with a hose rinse before the bucket wash when there's accumulation. But it feels like chemical overkill, and I prefer minimal hose use. My driveway is also full-sun except for an hour window at the beginning and end of each day, so I worry about APCs drying out. 

It would be amazing if I could skip the APC/rinse and instead sub out Decon in my usual maintenance wash - i.e. Decon Wash 256:1 w/ sponge, towel dry with Hyper Seal. Then go back to ONR for the next several weeks. 

I have had some success with the surfactant-heavy "Diy Detail™ Rinseless Wash" for this one specific use case (cutting the road film on a hoseless, 20 minute maintenance wash). However, I prefer every other performance and user experience aspect of ONR, and have come to strongly prefer OPT as a company for myriad reasons.

(3) Can Decon, at the stronger 'must-rinse' concentration, just straight up replace Power Clean for most prewash, wheel, and light-medium "apc-type" duties, thus eliminating the need to keep a weaker Power Clean dilution on hand? If Decon in the pump sprayer and ONR in the bucket will handle 90% of my washes, it would really simplify prep/setup/teardown. I wouldn't worry about APC drying in the sun, eating away at rubber/plastic, breaking down Opti/Hyper Seal, etc. 

[KIS76@]

On 10/4/2024 at 11:56 AM, Opti Don said:

Yes, that is correct. It is safe to use every wash with or without a drying aide. Hyper Foam with Hyper Seal as a drying aide every wash is a good plan. I love Hyper Seal and the most recent batches shipped out after May have much improved water beading.

Good to know thank you.  The hydrophobics of Hyper Seal weren't that good.  Glad to see it's been improved.