cptzippy Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 This may be a question that will make more sense once I use the product but here goes as I wait for it... I read in one of the posts on here (and couldn't find again) that you work each panel until it is clean. How do you tell when a panel is clean? Is it feel or visible or how? TIA and hope this isn't too dumb a question, Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesW Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think this will take you to the post you are looking for. ONR till clean Once you have used the product, you will develop a feel for how much washing you need to do before drying a panel. You will also learn how much wash solution you need in your wash media for each panel. I usually go over a panel with one side of my wash media, flip it over and go back over that same panel before I dry that panel. One drying pass to get most of the wash solution leaving the surface slightly damp. Second pass for the final drying step. I also often use a spray wax during the drying process. I spray it on after the first pass while the panel is slightly damp, then dry as normal. Quick & easy wash & wax job. The more you use it, the more comfortable you will be with it. It doesn't have to be a complicated procedure as you will soon learn. I don't use it on a vehicle with caked on dirt/mud/salt like happens in the northern states. I go to the DIY spray wash or a touchless drive-thru to remove the really nasty stuff. I then do a complete wash job in the garage. If the vehicle is just moderately dirty from driving in the rain, I skip the car wash step. Before people start telling me how the car washes will strip my wax/sealant, I have to say I disagree. They don't even remove all the road film, how can they be stripping the wax/sealant? As far as amount of solution, I use two gallons of ONR/water. One gallon for washing, one gallon to rinse the dirty mitt after doing a panel. I use ONR in both the wash and rinse water so I don't dilute the wash solution with plain water from the rinse. FWIW, I have experimented with using just one gallon of water and no rinse bucket and I really didn't see any difference in the results. The gallon of water was quite dirty when I finished, but that didn't seem to create any marring. The one gallon of solution was enough to wash the vehicle, but I was running out of solution by the time I did the wheels and wheel wells. I usually end up with more water on the floor doing the wheels and wheel wells than I do for the rest of the exterior. I think a lot of that is because I use brushes on the wheels and wheel wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptzippy Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 Thanks CharlesW, that was in fact what I read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunky Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Thanks CharlesW, that was in fact what I read Charles, your process is very close to mine. I do not used a rinse bucket as of late. I mix up 3 gallons of solution and do the wheels last. I have ONR mixed up in a sprayer to do a pre-soap...usually about 1/3 of a quart sprayer. I cannot really tell if the pre-soak really works or just peace of mind but I do it anyway. I also wipe the mitt across the section, then flip the mitt over to wipe again so I am wiping each section at least twice. When doing wheels/wheel wheels, the ONR is used more as a rinse agent for cleaners since ONR does not readily clean wheels for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn F. Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I do the same as Charles and Bunky. I also have a bottle of mixed ONR and another with ONR and Instant Detailer. Sometimes I will pre soak with the bottle of ONR as well. Like Bunky said, I dont know how much it helps (if it helps any at all) but it's just a piece of mind I guess you can say. As for the wheels, I hit them last and with degreaser (power clean) and then use brushes on them with the ONR and then rinse with ONR again, dry and then a coat of Opti-Seal. Do the bumpers and bottom of the car after the rest of it, then the wheels and wheel wells last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptzippy Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Well, I did it. Got the stuff before lunch at the house and in about 15 minutes at the end of my lunch break washed my Mini Cooper with the ONR. I have to say I'm happy. Looks good and was very easy. Didn't notice any marring but it would be hard to tell with my car already somewhat imperfect after a hard and neglected winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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