Tempest45 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does OCWC leave enhancers or other types of "residue" behind? Or is it designed to wash cleanly away? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Optimum Car Wash does not contain gloss enhancers, at least not in the traditional sense of Instant Detailer. It does contain polymers that will cause water to bead, if you want to consider that "residue". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest45 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thanks, Ron. I've been researching and couldn't find an answer to this. Hate to use the word residue but couldn't think of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I sometimes struggle to answer "component" questions - it's difficult to explain technical details in generic terms. We always want to be accurate but get caught in the nuances of explanation. And readers here are very quick to pick up slight differences... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I sometimes struggle to answer "component" questions - it's difficult to explain technical details in generic terms. We always want to be accurate but get caught in the nuances of explanation. And readers here are very quick to pick up slight differences... Sorry, some of us are used to working with technical details! I find this whole issue of "gloss enhancers" to be a red herring that some people on forums insist on chasing. Just to expand on that, due to the persistence of some members on another forum, and the help of a nameless chemist at a (nameless European) car product formulator, the "myth" of Dawn or other mild detergents being able to "strip" LSP was "busted". The takeaway for most enthusiasts was that you have to use something abrasive (a light polish) to really get down to a "naked" surface, and then of course you need to chemically remove any residues from the polish (perhaps not necessary with OPT polishes). But the takeaway for me was more that for years some enthusiasts were "stripping" their paint with Dawn, and applying a new LSP to a surface they thought was "naked" when in reality it had their old LSP with Dawn sheeting surfactants stuck on top...hardly a "naked" surface, yet somehow the paint didn't fall off their car, nor did their new LSP. So I have to take all this "gloss enhancer" hysteria with a teaspoon of amusement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest45 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 I've used Meg's Gold Class soap in the past for various things and it will alter water behavior on the surface of a panel. Tends to sheet and make the water go "flat". Supposed to help with rinsing and water spots. Not sure if that is the same chemical as a "gloss enhancer" or not. I'm not a chemist, but I've researched lubricants fairly heavily. I'm used to technical jargon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I've used Meg's Gold Class soap in the past for various things and it will alter water behavior on the surface of a panel. Tends to sheet and make the water go "flat". Supposed to help with rinsing and water spots. I find Gold Class to be a pretty bad soap for leaving polymer spotting if it dries on the surface. Again, I'm not sure I understand what the problem is with a soap altering the water behavior on the surface of a panel; this is typically a transient phenomenon. I expect car washes to alter water behavior, I mean that's what soaps/detergents are for. If they didn't alter water behavior there would be no point in using them, because they wouldn't work. Not sure if that is the same chemical as a "gloss enhancer" or not. Car wash soaps have a lot of ingredients in them for various reasons...cleaning, shining, changing water behavior. Some of the ingredients that are in there for one reason also have "side effects". So yes, I've used soaps that have left polymer spotting (a nuisance but almost every traditional car wash will do this to some degree), I've used car soaps that have killed my beading (a drag because I thought it stripped my LSP). Perhaps I should circle back and ask what your concern is about whatever "residue" is left behind by a gloss enhancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest45 Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 Perhaps I should circle back and ask what your concern is about whatever "residue" is left behind by a gloss enhancer? I like to know what I'm dealing with. One guy on AG posted about a coating not behaving like it should and it was because a soap left behind residue. A cleaning with D114 took care of this and restored the coating behavior. It's nice to know what to expect from a product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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