stephen.details Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 I already own ONR, but today for the first time tried the 128:1 (QD?) dilution as a pre-treat and it was like a miracle compared to pre-treating with 256:1!! as I’m running low on ONR and going to make an order soon, is buying some opti-clean (I’ll be getting some eventually waterless washes seem so fun lol) to use as pre treat better than ONR 128:1 dilution? Looking for effectiveness more than cost here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 curious why the surprise that a pre-spray ratio cleans better than the wash mix? Opti-Clean is stronger than ONR and also works as a pre-spray. My only issue with Opti-Clean, it's less effective (IMO) on dirty cars - you need to use more product or make more passes and it becomes less cost effective then than ONR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.details Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 After over consuming YouTube videos, mostly with Yvan, I became convinced that deviating from the sacred 256:1 dilution at all would cause issues—I was very wrong. I guess I was surprised mostly at how much easier the process became. More happy shock lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 with apologies to Yvan, I deviate from standard ratios all the time, and with products besides ONR (Power Clean, Opti-Clean, Carpet & Fabric, Opti-Bond, etc). A little experimentation is fun and there's nothing you can't come back from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIS76@ Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 6:35 PM, stephen.details said: I already own ONR, but today for the first time tried the 128:1 (QD?) dilution as a pre-treat and it was like a miracle compared to pre-treating with 256:1!! as I’m running low on ONR and going to make an order soon, is buying some opti-clean (I’ll be getting some eventually waterless washes seem so fun lol) to use as pre treat better than ONR 128:1 dilution? Looking for effectiveness more than cost here. I had thought the QD ratio was 16:1. Optimum No Rinse Dilution Ratios (water: product) Rinseless washing- 256:1 Water softener – 256:1 Glass cleaner – 256:1 Clay bar lubricant – 64:1 Quick detailer – 16:1 Drying aid – 16:1 Interior cleaner – 256:1 Before pre-rinsing – 256:1 Engine bay cleaning – 16:1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIS76@ Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I just tried the 128:1 and you're not kidding, it's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.details Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, KIS76@ said: I just tried the 128:1 and you're not kidding, it's awesome. Oh yeah! Super super economical and makes for the best pre spray. I have little to no dirt on my towel when drying, and what dirt I do find, is only because I’m not able to power wash in my apartment parking lot. Glad you enjoyed it 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 The ratios above are mostly, but not entirely Optimum's recommendations. For really hard water, OPT recommends 1 oz of ONR to 1 gallon. Dedicated glass cleaner is 6 oz ONR to 1 gallon. All formulas are open for customization - for instance some mix ONR 256:1 in garden sprayer as pre-soak, not as effective as 16:1 pre-spray/quick detailer but still works (and economical). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.details Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Have definitely noticed the difference in using it 256:1 in hard water versus in distilled. But 67¢ a gallon it’s only out of convenience i even use hard water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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