digital808 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Understood that the primer polish that comes with the Pro/Pro Plus kit is to be used as the final polish step before coating for better bonding. My questions is this: Is it mandatory to use the primer polish? How long would I have to wait after using primer to apply the coating? Can I apply the coating right away? Other companies that have their own primer for their coatings either has a 1 hour or 24 hour waiting period before applying their coatings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 it's recommended to use primer polish before ceramic coating, but not mandatory. You can apply Opti-Coat Pro immediately after primer polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital808 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Thanks Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital808 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 One more question, after I use the primer polish, is there a max time limit as to when I should apply opticoat pro+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 there is no time limit, you can Coat as soon as you finish polishing or wait. digital808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital808 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 Is Hyper Polish and the primer polish the same? I’ve just read somewhere that it’s very close. If I use hyper polish for paint enhancement, do I still need to follow up with primer polish before laying down Opti-coat pro+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detail Mutant Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Unless something has changed in the last two years, Hyper Polish and Primer Polish (comes in opti-coat kits) is the same. All Optimum sprayable polishes/compounds (Hyper Polish, Intensive Polish and Hyper Compound) contain additive which aids in Optimum coatings bonding to the surface. So in fact depending on paint you can finish with Intensive Polish before applying coating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital808 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Detail Mutant said: Unless something has changed in the last two years, Hyper Polish and Primer Polish (comes in opti-coat kits) is the same. All Optimum sprayable polishes/compounds (Hyper Polish, Intensive Polish and Hyper Compound) contain additive which aids in Optimum coatings bonding to the surface. So in fact depending on paint you can finish with Intensive Polish before applying coating. Thanks Mutant for the clarification. I was wondering if it was the same. Had I’d known that, it would’ve saved me 1-2hrs off my total install of pro+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 originally Primer Polish and Hyper Polish were slightly different formulas, Primer containing components that helped ceramic coatings bond. Shortly after Dr G added those chemicals to Hyper Polish and today they are the same. digital808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital808 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Ron@Optimum said: originally Primer Polish and Hyper Polish were slightly different formulas, Primer containing components that helped ceramic coatings bond. Shortly after Dr G added those chemicals to Hyper Polish and today they are the same. How’s about Intensive polish like what mutant says? Will that be considered a primer polish too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Intensive Polish is like compound, with greater correction capabilities. Using it might require follow up with Hyper Polish to correct marring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detail Mutant Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 22 hours ago, Ron@Optimum said: Intensive Polish is like compound, with greater correction capabilities. Using it might require follow up with Hyper Polish to correct marring. Especially if using on softer paints will need to follow up with Hyper Polish. Generally I have found Intensive Polish provides more than acceptable finish on harder paints (BMW, Mercedes) when used with appropriate pad. As Ron indicated all sprayable polishes/compounds contain additive for improving coating bond so only depends on what result you want based on the paint you are working on. digital808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayZee Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 8/2/2021 at 6:11 AM, Ron@Optimum said: originally Primer Polish and Hyper Polish were slightly different formulas, Primer containing components that helped ceramic coatings bond. Shortly after Dr G added those chemicals to Hyper Polish and today they are the same. Interesting... I'm just wondering though: Since the paint should get thoroughly wiped down with an IPA solution such as Paint Prep after polishing with Primer Polish and before applying the ceramic coating, how can any catalysts or anything else included in Primer Polish actually remain or leave the painted surface any more ready for the ceramic than other finishing polish that don't contain fillers, silicon, etc.? Really it's a question for personal knowledge more than anything else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 first, since Primer Polish is a replacement for IPA, no wipe down is required before coating. Second, components of Primer Polish can attach to clear coat and not be removed by wiping, similar to the way Optimum sealants used as drying aids are not removed by drying towels. JayZee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayZee Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ron@Optimum said: first, since Primer Polish is a replacement for IPA, no wipe down is required before coating. Second, components of Primer Polish can attach to clear coat and not be removed by wiping, similar to the way Optimum sealants used as drying aids are not removed by drying towels. Wow, I'm a bit perplexed. Somehow I thought the paint had to go through that IPA wipe down after Primer Polish. But if after polishing with some other brand's compound the Primer Polish replaces that IPA wipe, then ok - got it. I suppose a good ONR wipe then is good enough to remove excess polishing residue and can go straight to coating, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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