Detail Mutant Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I know Optimum has stated there is no compatibility issue between OCW (or ONRWW) and Opti-Seal in that Opti-Seal is able to penetrate wax and still bond with paint. I wonder if the same is true for Hyper Seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Hyper Seal applies the same as Opti-Seal, but has Si02 components that allow it to bond to ceramics and provide greater gloss & durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detail Mutant Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 20 hours ago, Ron@Optimum said: Hyper Seal applies the same as Opti-Seal, but has Si02 components that allow it to bond to ceramics and provide greater gloss & durability. Ron I don't know if that answered my question. In my optimization training, it was stated that applying OCW (or ONRWW) first will not interfere with Opti-Seal bonding to the paint. Is this the same for Hyper-Seal? Or is it better to use plain ONR (if claying do not use OCW) to maximize the adhision of Hyper-Seal since it is a SiO2 based sealant vs a polymer based sealant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Good question was looking for this answer as well . Although this is the way I wash some times with onrww then hyper seal. Looks great nice mirror like finish no streaking at all. I just hope I getting good protection . I like using onrww because it gets wax in all the gaps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I also use Hyper Seal over ONRWW and have no bonding issues. I haven't used combo wax & seal for years (and that was OS) so have no real time experience. Hyper Seal is reaching wide usage and have never heard of any problems, from enthusiasts OR pro installers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Outback Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 What is the cure time for Hyper-Seal? Some other SIO2-based sealers claim they need 4 - 8 hours of cure time (depending on environment) for their molecules to "orient" for maximum protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Hyper Seal is a hybrid and the SiO2 content is minor, so there's no extra cure time - 1 hour is sufficient. Gloss may increase over time but that doesn't effect curing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Hi Ron So hyperseal has only a small amount of SI02. 😥If I double or triple coat hyperseal on top of my gloss coat am i getting more protection . What about optimum spray wax on top of all that . I like the look of the wax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Outback Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Ron@Optimum said: Hyper Seal is a hybrid and the SiO2 content is minor, so there's no extra cure time - 1 hour is sufficient. Gloss may increase over time but that doesn't effect curing. Should add that unlike Rain-X products, Hyper-Seal didn't seem to cause wiper buildup, either on my glass or wipers. However, I'm now using Opti-Pro glass clean and protect on the glass, and a small amount of ONR in the washer fluid (seems to work pretty well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 additional layers of Hyper Seal will ensure complete coverage, may add gloss, and can modestly increase durability. Some add Wax for that reason, like the carnauba shine. Added coats will not equal the benefits of ceramic - OCP is SiC, not Si02 and Gloss Coat is a hybrid of both chemistries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Thanks Ron Good info I will keep using both hyperseal and optimum wax . Wax on top of hyperseal or hyperseal on top of wax does it make any difference . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 If you're going to use wax, I suggest you apply first, it won't bond well to Hyper Seal due to the ceramic properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Wax first then hyperseal ok but When I wash car the following week what's first . If I am putting wax on top of hyper seal am i just wasting product and time will the wax last till the next weekly wash . I put two coats of hyperseal on in the spring on top of my gloss coat then my weekly wash with onr and wax as a drying aid . What do you think . I like the spray wax in the winter it only needs a sunny day and about 2 or 3 deg c to work i use warm water with my onr to wash the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 There's really no wrong way to do this - for greater durability, apply Wax then Hyper Seal. For the carnauba look, you can use Wax whenever and should get several weeks longevity, depending on weather, etc. As often and well as you maintain your car, it will always be protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thanks Ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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