Ron@Optimum Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Asking the OPT Experts here - do you use ONR as a drying aid or see it as an option? I've gotten numerous questions online/email from people saying they've seen forum/youtube posts describing ONR as a drying aid. While there's no reason it couldn't be used that way, doesn't seem like the most effective product for that. My definition of drying aid - something hydrophobic that increases the effectiveness of your drying media and adds gloss/slickness to the paint. While ONR seems slightly hydrophobic and does add some gloss, there are many products so much better. When expressing this opinion I've gotten pretty aggressive pushback, a little irritating because I'm supposed to be the Tech Specialist. Far be it for me to talk people out of using Optimum products... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I've been around these detailing forums for over 15 years now, and to my recollection the whole idea of a "drying aid" pre-dates rinseless washes (well, the mainstream use of rinseless washes...before ONR put it in the mainstream, there was QEW (quick and easy wash), which people only used during the winter in the garage when they couldn't do a conventional wash). The idea was that a lot of swirls came when you were drying your car after a conventional wash--when there was no lubrication for the towel. So people started using QD to make the towel glide and clean up any leftover water spots (and give you some transient gloss, which some people did anyway after washing--use QD, that is). Somehow that morphed into using spray waxes and WOWA sealants as they became available. Since most rinseless washes have a decent amount of lubricity inherent in the function of the product, and you usually don't get the degree of spotting that you do during conventional wash (from rinsing parts of the car before you are done washing, and not having clean rinse water sitting on the car, only "treated" rinseless wash solution), I never really saw the need to use a drying aid with rinseless, besides, I don't really want to make my drying towels hydrophobic. I can see ONR being used as a drying aid for a conventional wash, particularly if you've gotten some water spots during the rinse/dry. Are you sure that's not what they're talking about? On the other hand, some people may not really understand the nuance between conventional, rinseless, and waterless washing as some of us do from watching it evolve over the years, and everyone is an expert now from using Google and watching YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Opti-Seal is the best drying aid I tried. Tried different manufacturer sealants but they can't compete on the same level. This, of course, after a ONR wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Interesting topic I am using my own mixture of onrww and otimum spray wax in a ik sprayer after a onr wash as a drying aid . I spray a couple of panels then dry. I like the way it spreads a nice even coat of wax in all gaps . A bit like the wax in a carwash but opti. Would this be considered as a drying aid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCAMILLERS Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 do you re apply optiseal after you use it as a drying aid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 using it as drying aid is applying it - it migrates to paint and is there after drying. No reason you can't apply a second coat, but seems redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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