SteveInNJ Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Can anyone provide some detailed information regarding the UV protection properties of Opticoat Pro? Are there any comparisons available with traditional waxes, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I was just thinking about this...since Optimum Car Wax and Optimum No-Rinse Wash & Wax have UV inhibitors in them, how does that protection compare to Opti-Seal, OC 2.0, Gloss-Coat, and Opticoat Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 all Optimum Coatings have superior UV protection compared to ONR or Wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 all Optimum Coatings have superior UV protection compared to ONR or Wax. I'm sorry, do you mean they are superior to ONRWW? Where do OCW and Opti-Seal fit in as compared to the coatings? Do the coatings (other than Opti-Lens, which clearly does) have UV inhibitors added to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 All coatings have UV inhibitors and are far superior to ONR, ONRWW, OCW, and OS (which has no UV protection) in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Opti-seal does not offer UV protection? I may have misunderstood the response but OS does seem to claim UV protection "Dirt, moisture, oil, and UV radiation are all sealed out of the paint to maintain optimum gloss" http://www.optimumcarcare.com/oseal.php?li=7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I knew I had seen something by Mike Phillips about the UV protection from OCW -v- Coating and eventually found it "Id' have to check with Dr. David Ghodoussi to know which of his paint products offer the most UV protection but believe it or not, I think it's Optimum Car Wax and not one of the coatings.The coatings last the longest but I'm not sure is a material that last the longest due to how it bonds to the paint automatically means it also provides the most UV inhibitors?I know I've asked him this in the past and my memory could be lacking on this topic but I seem to think I remember him saying OCW" http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/69963-uv-protection.html And from Chris Thomas who is quoting Dr G ""The UV absorbers we use in the Optimum Car Wax are the same as those in the clearcoat paint...."" http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/53183-optimum-car-wax-uva-uvb-blocking-efficiency-duration.html Which then begs the question are the UV filters in a coating better or more effective in some way than the factory paint protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Lowejackson, I'm sure this can get very complicated--it's possible that the UV protection of the coatings (and I hope Opti-Lens) is even far superior to clearcoat...the problem is that even Opti-Coat Pro is only 5-10% the thickness of clearcoat, at the most. I have found OC 2.0, and even Opti-Lens, to be somewhat lacking at UV protection of headlights, and I'm sure it's primarily due to the coating being so thin. I usually do two coats, other users have suggested 3 (which I did recently, I'll see if that holds up better). So it's certainly an interesting topic of discussion, and whether regular use of OCW would result in better protection than a coating due to being constantly replenished, or if it will permeate the coatings in the way it is supposed to permeate clearcoat (the UV inhibitor portion), or whether it's useless to put OCW on top of a coating...which sounds than like it would be useless to put on top of your clearcoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It could be an interesting combination if the UV filters in OCW would eventually penetrate a coating like Opti-lens or Gloss-coat. Ron, could you clarify if OCW could improve the UV performance of coatings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfordisbetter Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Opti-seal does not offer UV protection? I may have misunderstood the response but OS does seem to claim UV protection "Dirt, moisture, oil, and UV radiation are all sealed out of the paint to maintain optimum gloss" http://www.optimumcarcare.com/oseal.php?li=7 So does Opti Seal contain any UV "protection" or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So does Opti Seal contain any UV "protection" or not? According to the Optimum marketing claims it does i.e. "Dirt, moisture, oil, and UV radiation are all sealed out of the paint to maintain optimum gloss", Anthony Orosco said "Opti-Seal is a sealant with UV absorbers" http://optimumforums.org/index.php?showtopic=618 Maybe there is some very technical difference between a UV filter, absorber or inhibitors which would explain Ron's comments. On a side note I have no idea if Poli-seal and GPS offer any UV protection and could not find any claims they do or do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I will check with DR G, but I suspect OCW does not improve the UV protection of Opti-Coat in any meaningful way. I think Lowejackson is correct in the technical difference between being a UV absorber and containing UV protection. Directly from David: "The coatings provide much greater UV protection than Car Wax or No Rinse Wash & Wax. However, Opti-Seal does not have any UV protection." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfordisbetter Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Good to have you posting Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Good to have you posting Chris! Completely agree, nice to see you posting again Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowejackson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Ron, did you manage to get some clarification on the UV properties of Opti-seal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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