Mr.Outback Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 one more thought came up per recent Pan and Yvan comments: if pressure washing dirt off a car can scratch the paint as they suggest it can, would it be better to (as they suggest) do a prep by low-pressure spraying the dirt with ONR solution to lubricate it before high pressure spray rinse, or would it be simpler to add ONR to the pressure washer (would ONR lube the dirt quickly enough to prevent pressure scratching) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Best to pre-spray and let dwell for a moment and then rinse using a pressure washer. The amount of water it delivers is much more important than the pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Outback Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/29/2021 at 4:51 AM, No Soap said: Best to pre-spray and let dwell for a moment and then rinse using a pressure washer. The amount of water it delivers is much more important than the pressure. Only worry is that Pro+'s so good at beading, the pre-spray beads up and doesn't dwell on all the surface. As an experiment for when car's very dirty I've combined ONR with one of the better foam products to make sure ONR dwells on all the surface, then do a rinse, and then the ONR-only wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijneker Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (New formula) No rinse works great on bugs too! Just ONR @2561:1, Ultra Black Sponge, TRC Double Twistress and OCW as a drying aid. Just a rinseless wash, no pre-rinse, on a hot car in 25°C, fully in the sun. Most of the bugs came off with the towel. For the rest of the car, just took it slow and worked panel for panel, came out looking great. For the wheels, which weren't that dirty, OPC @6:1, brush with TRC W&B Brush dipped in ONR, wiped with a towel. Followed by OPT Tire Shine. No streaks, smears or watermarks. Awesome! Both of the cars washed this way: LostVulpine and A&J 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Soap Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I thought I was fooling myself with placebo when I pre-sprayed with new formula ONR and bugs seemed to dissolve! Is this something by the new design or am I really imagining this? Can you ask Dr. G Ron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 Dr G states the new formula ONR is a substantially stronger cleaner... LostVulpine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVulpine Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 If it has had that much of an improvement I cannot wait until it filters through to the UK . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Well, I had to order a small bottle of the new ONR and ONRWW...besides, it was time for me to try a bottle of T.A.R. That sounds reasonable, doesn't it? Not sure if my wife is going to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 I finally coerced my wife into helping me wash cars (2 in the past 2 weeks) and she's now seduced to the Dark Side of Opti-fanatism! She's used various OPT products around the house for years, but actually seeing them in action...and how easy they are to apply combined with the results and we have a winner! cptzippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setec Astronomy Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 She always washes her own car, I converted her to rinseless years ago. She just makes me mix up the rinseless wash for her, and do the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron@Optimum Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 I keep spray bottles of ONR AND Opti-Clean mixed and under the sink, in bathroom, and on my pontoon. Never more than a few steps from product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlc95 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 6/22/2021 at 9:38 AM, Ron@Optimum said: Dr G states the new formula ONR is a substantially stronger cleaner... I washed a really, really dirty car at work yesterday. It had the typical Metro Detroit winter sludge of salt, grime, and dirt all over it. The new formula demolished it with one pass. It was surprising, and I wasn't expecting to experience that. Earlier in the morning before I left for work, I gave my gf's Jeep a wash in the garage with the previous version, which always cleans well for me. I would absolutely say that the new version is better. The new version feels thicker, more slippery. It also dries easier. It almost seems to evaporate like Opti-Seal. Also, the drying towels there need to be replaced as they don't want to absorb, and it still worked. Heijneker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijneker Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yup! I uses old and new formula side to side on the same hood; worlds apart! It beads up way faster than the old formula. Yvan Lacroix says you can use ammonia to 'shock-treat' the towels. At the end of Hawk Pro Detail shop makeover video, he says you can add it to the washing machine, but I've got no further instructions than that. Worth a shot if the towels are..... shot?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijneker Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Most likely, some sort of grease, oiliness or such has gotten in the towels. And ammonia is a very good degreaser. Haven't tried it myself yet. He exactly says: "add a bit of ammonia to where you would add the bleach in your washing machine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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